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millions of us protested against both the war and the draft bill clinton did everything he could to avoid the draft without the benefit that mitt romney enjoyed. but he didn't want anyone to go to that war. he didn't force others to go to vietnam to die in his place. like mitt romney was. young american men had terrible choices to make in those days. protest the war or serve in the war. protest the draft or avoid the draft or flee the country or go to prison in defiance of the draft. going to war was not the only brave choice then. morally centered men made each one of those choices. the amorality of mitt romney's choice was something that i had never heard of. i disnot know that there was a single american man who publicly protested in favor of the war and protested in favor of the draft and then evaded that draft himself and then sat i'dly by, played in the sand of french beaches while expecting other young american men his age to go to vietnam in his place. mitt romney thinks of people taking veteran's benefits as deped dedapts on government. thinks of them as the takers. we could have
millions of us protested against both the war and the draft bill clinton did everything he could to avoid the draft without the benefit that mitt romney enjoyed. but he didn't want anyone to go to that war. he didn't force others to go to vietnam to die in his place. like mitt romney was. young american men had terrible choices to make in those days. protest the war or serve in the war. protest the draft or avoid the draft or flee the country or go to prison in defiance of the draft. going to...
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the defense of marriage act signed by president clinton is also facing numerous challengeses. the law states the federal government will only recognize traditional marriages, meaning no federal benefits even where same-sex marriage is legal. >> same-sex couples are denied hundreds of different rights and benefits that are provided to married different sex couples under federal law. >> reporter: on the docket as well, whether to curtail parts of the historic voting rights act of 1965. it mandates federal oversight for states with a history of voting discrimination, when changing any rules for elections. challengers say the law is outdated and unnecessary. a big lineup of cases that could change the landscape of civil rights in america. fr frances coe, nbc news. >>> and now here's a look at some other stories making news early today in america. in maine, a group of strangers spring into action when an elderly woman drove her car into the portland harbor. the band of good samaritans pulled the 84-year-old out of her car moments before it sank. the woman is in stable condition. so
the defense of marriage act signed by president clinton is also facing numerous challengeses. the law states the federal government will only recognize traditional marriages, meaning no federal benefits even where same-sex marriage is legal. >> same-sex couples are denied hundreds of different rights and benefits that are provided to married different sex couples under federal law. >> reporter: on the docket as well, whether to curtail parts of the historic voting rights act of...
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in fact, politico has called it the clinton crutch. how much will president obama be relaying on the former president to sell his economic plan, specifically? >> sure. well, look, president obama is a fantastic advocate for president obama. he's got a unique perspective that he brings to this campaign. having been through some of the challenges with the economy that the president faces today during the 1990s, and having implemented very similar proposals in terms of investing in education and investing in infrastructure, responsibly bringing down the debt, so his is a voice that we think is a very powerful voice in helping to tell the president's story. we think he's going to be a great advocate for us. we're excited he's giving us that time and we're excited to have him out advocating for the president on the trail. >> brent, hypothetically, let's say the president is re-elected. what's his first order of business next year, is it immigration reform? is it climate change? what's going to be, jobs notwithstanding, because i know that's
in fact, politico has called it the clinton crutch. how much will president obama be relaying on the former president to sell his economic plan, specifically? >> sure. well, look, president obama is a fantastic advocate for president obama. he's got a unique perspective that he brings to this campaign. having been through some of the challenges with the economy that the president faces today during the 1990s, and having implemented very similar proposals in terms of investing in education...
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he needs to completely right this ship because ever since the 47%, and the president clinton speech at the debate, the momentum has gone completely against him. >> i'm going to bring in chris. one more time, michael, what can he do that would change? that's what i'm looking for in an answer here. what do you believe specifically he can say at this point? >> if i were advising mitt romney my advice would be to be the man that was a governor, as a moderate of massachusetts and not the incarnation who has sought the presidency trying to appease all the ideologues on the right end of the spectrum. >> that is the opposite of a man you as a conservative does not want to see. you do not want to see massachusetts mitt show up at that debate. that will not bring conservative enthusiasm up a blip. >> had he taken -- he hasn't been a conservative the last five years running. why he didn't win the nomination four years ago, took him so long to win the nomination this time around. i don't think this is about ideology or anything as much as it pains me to say that, this is a question of capability.
he needs to completely right this ship because ever since the 47%, and the president clinton speech at the debate, the momentum has gone completely against him. >> i'm going to bring in chris. one more time, michael, what can he do that would change? that's what i'm looking for in an answer here. what do you believe specifically he can say at this point? >> if i were advising mitt romney my advice would be to be the man that was a governor, as a moderate of massachusetts and not the...
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>> one thing president clinton has done so successfully, he's not against wealth. he's just against hypocrisy, right? it's great -- he's for people doing well and he wants middle class people to do well. >> did you see a wildlife movie where the cougar or lion gets the antelope finally and starts to eat them. they always do it kindly. that's how bill clinton does it. >>> a number of new national polls out right now. a national journal poll found the race tied up. a national public radio has obama up by seven. these can't both be right. the latest nbc/wall street journal poll, always right, splits the voters. the new poll from nbc/wall street journal/telemundo, look at this, 50% spread, howard. >> this is a number -- >> this is the lead. >> this is a number that drives karl rove and -- >> the architect. >> the architect and most other republicans of the bush era completely crazy. >> because it was -- >> completely crazy because it's self-made. it's what mitt romney did to himself in the primaries, what the republicans did to themselves in the primary. they know unle
>> one thing president clinton has done so successfully, he's not against wealth. he's just against hypocrisy, right? it's great -- he's for people doing well and he wants middle class people to do well. >> did you see a wildlife movie where the cougar or lion gets the antelope finally and starts to eat them. they always do it kindly. that's how bill clinton does it. >>> a number of new national polls out right now. a national journal poll found the race tied up. a national...
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bill clinton tried the approach that i'm talking about. we creatd 23 million new jobs, we went from deficit to surplus, and businesses did very well. so in some ways, we've got some data on which approach is more likely to create jobs and opportunity for americans, and i believe that the economy works best when middle class families are getting tax breaks, so that they've got some money in their pockets. and those of us who have done extraordinarily well because of this magnificent country that we live in, that we can afford to do a little bit more to make sure we're not blowing up the deficit. >> jim, the president began this segment, so i think i get the last word. >> well, you're going to get the first word in the next segment. >> but he gets the first word of that segment, i get the last word of this segment. >> he can have it. >> that's not how it works. >> let me repeat what i said. i'm not in favor of a $5 trillion tax cut. that's not my plan. my plan is not to put in place any tax cut that will add to the deficit. that's point one.
bill clinton tried the approach that i'm talking about. we creatd 23 million new jobs, we went from deficit to surplus, and businesses did very well. so in some ways, we've got some data on which approach is more likely to create jobs and opportunity for americans, and i believe that the economy works best when middle class families are getting tax breaks, so that they've got some money in their pockets. and those of us who have done extraordinarily well because of this magnificent country that...
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bill clinton, lord knows, that's what it was all about with that guy. and this guy, i mean, can't do it at all. by the way, that's also the magic of the tea party movement. >> can't you imagine having some caviar with mitt romney? bellinis? >> with special spoons you have to eat it with. it can't be silver. it's got to be whatever it is. i'm sure mitt romney can tell you all about it. he just can't switch it on. not only that, this is the republican party and conservatism generally has been coasting on this notion, this sort of populist aura that hoverses around them and he's the opposite, you know. he's -- i was reading this great story in "rolling stone" the other day by matt taibbi about how mitt romney is like all of the terrible movie villains of the last 30 years. you know, he's the rich fraternity boy that's such a snob to the guys in animal house, right? you go down the list of movie villains and this is the kind of guy. perfectly, well coifed executives who fire everybody. >> thomas, i'm so grateful to you, but i'm afraid we've run out of time.
bill clinton, lord knows, that's what it was all about with that guy. and this guy, i mean, can't do it at all. by the way, that's also the magic of the tea party movement. >> can't you imagine having some caviar with mitt romney? bellinis? >> with special spoons you have to eat it with. it can't be silver. it's got to be whatever it is. i'm sure mitt romney can tell you all about it. he just can't switch it on. not only that, this is the republican party and conservatism generally...
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we talked to bill clinton, i think, tuesday of last week, newt gingrich of wednesday last week. to hear them talk about each other, couldn't stand about each other. newt gingrich said they could be in negotiations and fight for two hours and bill clinton would always listen, listen for one moment where they could agree on something and then it built out on that. and bill clinton was praising the guy who impeached him and newt gingrich was praising his mortal political enemy because even though they couldn't stand each other at the time, they worked together for america's good. >> you were there in washington and it seemed to me at that time it was to show you got something done. it seems to me now the point of political survival is making sure your opponent gets nothing done, even if it mean use all get nothing done. >> exactly. >> is that -- >> and the depressing thing is -- let's say mitt romney is elected. are dim carats going to work for him? what if barack obama's re-elected? is he going to say, okay, now i'm going to go to simpson-bowles? let's talk about medicare. it's th
we talked to bill clinton, i think, tuesday of last week, newt gingrich of wednesday last week. to hear them talk about each other, couldn't stand about each other. newt gingrich said they could be in negotiations and fight for two hours and bill clinton would always listen, listen for one moment where they could agree on something and then it built out on that. and bill clinton was praising the guy who impeached him and newt gingrich was praising his mortal political enemy because even though...
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clinton's funny. obama's funny. if you recall, george bush jr. was quite funny too. >> he was great. he went on oprah. >> he was very funny and very good thinking on his feet. >> so they're doing more like what do you and i'm thinking how are they going to stand up to vladimir putin, not how they going to stand up to whoopi goldberg. >> i know. what these presidents and presidential candidates go through is impossible to conceive. i mean you get the presidential daily briefing when you get in office and like being questioned, you said in toledo 16 days ago,ou know. >> and then you have to go on leno and be funny. >> you kind of do now, yeah. i mean it's the way it is. you know, the thing about comedy is that when you give a punch line, the audience has to believe the premise of your joke in order to laugh at them. you can't educate an audience and make them laugh at the same time. so when a guy goes on tv and crack as joke and the audience laughs, that means they believe in his premise. in this cyber age it's a way of getting news. what happens.
clinton's funny. obama's funny. if you recall, george bush jr. was quite funny too. >> he was great. he went on oprah. >> he was very funny and very good thinking on his feet. >> so they're doing more like what do you and i'm thinking how are they going to stand up to vladimir putin, not how they going to stand up to whoopi goldberg. >> i know. what these presidents and presidential candidates go through is impossible to conceive. i mean you get the presidential daily...
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he's aloof compared to bill clinton. bill clinton has a touch. >> everyone is aloof compared to bill clinton. >> exactly. >> let's talk about mitt romney. strengths, weakness. >> mitt romney's strength is that he is, comes across as competent, as a capable human being. as somebody who projects an air of authority, especially when he talks about the economy. that is the private sector track record. the flip side, the weakness is the 47%. some of the attacks he's taken in terms of that business record. i think mitt romney's biggest problem though, chris, is the sense people can't be sure exactly if he believes what he's saying. he needs to project authentic passion for what he believes his plan would do for the american economy to make the 47% lives better as well as the other 53. >> what do you think, e.j.? >> i thought the definitive line on politics, what you need is sincerity, if you can fake that, you can do anything. it's troublesome on this question of authenticate. what is authenticity? romney has taken a number of
he's aloof compared to bill clinton. bill clinton has a touch. >> everyone is aloof compared to bill clinton. >> exactly. >> let's talk about mitt romney. strengths, weakness. >> mitt romney's strength is that he is, comes across as competent, as a capable human being. as somebody who projects an air of authority, especially when he talks about the economy. that is the private sector track record. the flip side, the weakness is the 47%. some of the attacks he's taken in...
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ronald reagan and bill clinton. say your opponent's record is bad and still be optimistic about america and i think both of these guys forget to think that the president's a little better on it. romney is an optimistic guy. he will be better for himself if he focuses on optimism. >> talk about strength. >> the republican strategist talks about this all the time. the moments that matter are moments where you do something to show that you're a strong leader and either by implication or a frontal attack the other person is not as strong. reagan and clinton are masters of this, through their demeanor, ceasing the moment, it will be played over and over again of strength, not weakness. >> my real prickish question, a difficult one. the alien from abroad, and he looked at it and said, who is that guy? and he said, it's romney. it seems to be out of the normal conduct of people thaw meet. it seems odd. >> all of the polls have said two to one that they expect obama to outperform romney. so in that sense if he gets up there
ronald reagan and bill clinton. say your opponent's record is bad and still be optimistic about america and i think both of these guys forget to think that the president's a little better on it. romney is an optimistic guy. he will be better for himself if he focuses on optimism. >> talk about strength. >> the republican strategist talks about this all the time. the moments that matter are moments where you do something to show that you're a strong leader and either by implication...
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that characterized obama's notable gaffe during the 2008 primary when hillary clinton was asked what she would say to voters who seemed to like barack obama more. >> he's very likable. i agree with that. i don't think i'm that bad. >> you're likable enough, hillary. >> thank you. >> governor romney's 23 debate performances during the republican primary his weakness showed when he allowed competitors to get und her is skin prompting irritated off script moments that gave a new meaning to the #awkward. >> anderson -- >> you say you knew. >> would you please wait? >> are you just going to deep talking? >> yes, sir. >> let me finish what i have to say i'm running for office i can't have ill heels. >> when will you release yours? will you follow your father's examples? >> maybe. i don't know how many years i'll release. i'll take a look at what our documents are -- >> you asked me an entirely different question. >> wow. john heilemann, i can't get enough of the semi vintage romney debate clips but want to know as a resident expert on all things campaign related having written a book calle
that characterized obama's notable gaffe during the 2008 primary when hillary clinton was asked what she would say to voters who seemed to like barack obama more. >> he's very likable. i agree with that. i don't think i'm that bad. >> you're likable enough, hillary. >> thank you. >> governor romney's 23 debate performances during the republican primary his weakness showed when he allowed competitors to get und her is skin prompting irritated off script moments that gave...
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but let's hope that he's not going to use that line from president clinton, it's the economy, stupid, because the easiest response to that is, we know who's stupid when it comes to the economy. thanks so much for watching. thank you to the university of denver for hosting us. and to all of you watching at home. my colleague, chris mathews is also here in denver. he picks things up with "hardball." two years ago, the people of bp made a commitment to the gulf. and every day since, we've worked hard to keep it. bp has paid over twenty-three billion dollars to help people and businesses who were affected, and to cover cleanup costs. today, the beaches and gulf are open for everyone to enjoy -- and many areas are reporting their best tourism seasons in years. we've shared what we've learned with governments and across the industry so we can all produce energy more safely. i want you to know, there's another commitment bp takes just as seriously: our commitment to america. bp supports nearly two-hundred-fifty thousand jobs in communities across the country. we hired three thousand people j
but let's hope that he's not going to use that line from president clinton, it's the economy, stupid, because the easiest response to that is, we know who's stupid when it comes to the economy. thanks so much for watching. thank you to the university of denver for hosting us. and to all of you watching at home. my colleague, chris mathews is also here in denver. he picks things up with "hardball." two years ago, the people of bp made a commitment to the gulf. and every day since,...
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dodger when it comes to providing specific details on how he plans to fix the economy, but it was bill clinton who cornered the candidate with just one word, arithmetic, arguing that his plan just doesn't add up. but if you dare call him out on it, watch out. >> so i'm not going to send money to amtrak. i'm not going to send money to pbs. not going to send money to the national center -- or the national endowment for humanities and arts. >> that doesn't add up to much, governor. >> i'm happy to keep going, julie, okay? >> as for middle class americans who believe that will translate into big tax cuts, well, mr. romney has some bad news for you. >> by the way, don't be expecting a huge cut in taxes because i'm also going to lower deductions and exemptions, but by bringing rates down, we'll be able to let small businesses keep more of their money so they can hire more people. >> jared bernstein is an msnbc contributor and former chief economic policy to the vice president. it's great to have you in person, jared. can you explain something to me because this sounds to me like a game of smoke and
dodger when it comes to providing specific details on how he plans to fix the economy, but it was bill clinton who cornered the candidate with just one word, arithmetic, arguing that his plan just doesn't add up. but if you dare call him out on it, watch out. >> so i'm not going to send money to amtrak. i'm not going to send money to pbs. not going to send money to the national center -- or the national endowment for humanities and arts. >> that doesn't add up to much, governor....
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bill clinton just good enough. and president bush, he'll have to do much better. >> by morning, what had been last night's analysis had become conventional wisdom. in the headlines. on the "today" show. >> clinton did what he had to do and bush did not. >> and in instant polls. >> those polls show the president finishing third among people who watched the first debate. >> the bush people are getting very, very tired of hearing that the president did not hit a home run last night. >> so at this point as a nation, in our entire history as a country, we have had four national attempts of a challenger making his television debate debut against the sitting president of the united states. and after doing this four times as a nation, the record for incumbent presidents facing these challengers is 0-4. okay. so now 1996, incumbent president is that now not as young man from arkansas, bill clinton, and his challenger that year is bob dole. did bob dole really beat incumbent bill clinton in their first debate? actually, no.
bill clinton just good enough. and president bush, he'll have to do much better. >> by morning, what had been last night's analysis had become conventional wisdom. in the headlines. on the "today" show. >> clinton did what he had to do and bush did not. >> and in instant polls. >> those polls show the president finishing third among people who watched the first debate. >> the bush people are getting very, very tired of hearing that the president did not...
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that's what they've dope with clinton. it's still true. bill clinton today up in new hampshire again, sealed the deal again. he will do it in pennsylvania, he will do it in ohio, and when the time comes, he'll do it in wisconsin. they're going to own the rust belt, the democrats, because of this united party. that's what i think is really important this election. >> and you've got it on politics and you've got it on policy. you've got bill clinton in new hampshire stumping for president obama today. and today with this crisis in syria, in turkey, with this ongoing crisis in libya, you've got hillary clinton out there, the tip of the sphere, the administration, she's going press availabilities with the foreign minister of kazakhstan today. she's absolutely integrated into the obama administration with no question of any division between them. i think that's -- i think to the extent that the clinton popularity in those rust belt states still explains enthusiasm that, i think that's exactly right. >>> all right, we've got lots to come, includ
that's what they've dope with clinton. it's still true. bill clinton today up in new hampshire again, sealed the deal again. he will do it in pennsylvania, he will do it in ohio, and when the time comes, he'll do it in wisconsin. they're going to own the rust belt, the democrats, because of this united party. that's what i think is really important this election. >> and you've got it on politics and you've got it on policy. you've got bill clinton in new hampshire stumping for president...
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bill clinton is headed back on the campaign trail for president obama. the big dog will be in new hampshire on wednesday, the same day obama and mitt romney will meet in denver for the first presidential debate. in 1992 clinton, of course, became the first democrat to carry new hampshire since lyndon johnson did it back in '64, and since then the granite state has voted for a republican president only once when george w. bush won it in 2000. we'll be right back. low-cost investing. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 at schwab, we're committed to offering you tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 low-cost investment options-- tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 like our exchange traded funds, or etfs tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 which now have the lowest tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 operating expenses tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 in their respective tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 lipper categories. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 lower than spdr tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 and even lower than vanguard. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 that means with schwab, tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 your portfolio has tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 a b
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it could be something as definite ace bill clinton's speech. that's romney's problem and it's a big one. "the ed show" with ed schultz starts right now. >> good evening americans. welcome to "the ed show" from new york. 39 days until the 2012 election and five days until the first presidential debate. voter fraud is alive and healthy. tonight we rip the cover off the growing rnc voter suppression scandal. it's there. this is "the ed show," let's get to work. >> mitt romney and the rn
it could be something as definite ace bill clinton's speech. that's romney's problem and it's a big one. "the ed show" with ed schultz starts right now. >> good evening americans. welcome to "the ed show" from new york. 39 days until the 2012 election and five days until the first presidential debate. voter fraud is alive and healthy. tonight we rip the cover off the growing rnc voter suppression scandal. it's there. this is "the ed show," let's get to work....
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plus, a day in the life of secretary of state hillary clinton. >> i don't mind if they can just figure out how to use their cameras. that is my big problem. >> we'll play more of what the secretary of state was explaining. it's one of the things we thought you should know. so, we all set? i've got two tickets to paradise! pack your bags, we'll leave tonight. uhh, it's next month, actually... eddie continues singing: to tickets to... paradiiiiiise! no four. remember? whoooa whooaa whooo! you know ronny, folks who save hundreds of dollars by switching to geico sure are happy. and how happy are they jimmy? happier than eddie money running a travel agency. get happy. get geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. i've got a nice long life ahead. big plans. so when i found out medicare doesn't pay all my medical expenses, i looked at my options. then i got a medicare supplement insurance plan. [ male announcer ] if you're eligible for medicare, you may know it only covers about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. call now and find out about an aar
plus, a day in the life of secretary of state hillary clinton. >> i don't mind if they can just figure out how to use their cameras. that is my big problem. >> we'll play more of what the secretary of state was explaining. it's one of the things we thought you should know. so, we all set? i've got two tickets to paradise! pack your bags, we'll leave tonight. uhh, it's next month, actually... eddie continues singing: to tickets to... paradiiiiiise! no four. remember? whoooa whooaa...
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end of october, though clinton eventually won. a former clinton pollster is questioning the assumptions being made in today's polls. >> these polls are assuming that you have the same high level of african american, latino, and young people vote in 2012 that you had in 2008. >> obama campaign senior advisor david axelrod told fox, "public polls are widely variant in their sampling and methodology so it's hard to case when they all point in one direction they're all wrong, but we are planning for a close race as we always have." another democratic strategist offered this assessment -- >> the race isn't over. look, this thing can move back and forth three or four times between now and november 6th. if i'm romney, you try to create that momentum. he saw a sign to do it. >> of the eight presidential races in the past 10 where the leads were cut or flipped by the opponent, the average of the comebacks was roughly 5%. in some cases it was a debate that moved the needle. harris? >> mike, thank you of the let's go to syria where the u.n.
end of october, though clinton eventually won. a former clinton pollster is questioning the assumptions being made in today's polls. >> these polls are assuming that you have the same high level of african american, latino, and young people vote in 2012 that you had in 2008. >> obama campaign senior advisor david axelrod told fox, "public polls are widely variant in their sampling and methodology so it's hard to case when they all point in one direction they're all wrong, but...
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president clinton came out on top, president obama was second at former president george w. bush scored third at 46%, a solid three points ahead of mitt romney. you heard that right, george w. bush is more popular than mitt romney. and some republicans are blaming the campaign's problem on the candidate himself. an anonymous romney organization top member was quoted as saying . . . and a top washington republican . . . turning to the latest swing state polls. a survey has likely voters in new hampshire backing the president a 50 to 45%. new hampshire voters also give the president a 7-point edge. in virginia the president is leading mitt romney again by two points, as does suffolk university and d.c. 12 poll. while the nevada virginia and colorado races are close, mitt romney chose to campaign today in pennsylvania. he told the crowd at the military academy. >> romney: i want to take that big cloud off of the small business world that is hang over them. three-quarters say they don't want to hire more people because of obamacare. [ cheers ] >> eliot: despite the fact that he
president clinton came out on top, president obama was second at former president george w. bush scored third at 46%, a solid three points ahead of mitt romney. you heard that right, george w. bush is more popular than mitt romney. and some republicans are blaming the campaign's problem on the candidate himself. an anonymous romney organization top member was quoted as saying . . . and a top washington republican . . . turning to the latest swing state polls. a survey has likely voters in new...
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bring bill clinton as his debate coach." that's one person's opinion of the matter. nevertheless, no chance in that happening, but we know from what david axelrod has said and others, there will likely be a strategy change for the president in the next debate. >> no one knows why the president didn't do as well. i think that you're going to see a more focused president obama. actually, a more focused obama campaign team on preparation. this is a conversation we had about mitt romney and a lot of things he said shouldn't have been too surprising given all the republican debates we had seen over the past year or so. and president obama was caught flat-footed, his campaign was flat-footed. we'll see if the adjustments they end up making as david axelrod promised. >> what's the early word on the vice presidential debates? you have democrats off the record worried knowing that biden could give a make moment or a break moment. >> it's most watched tv. it's important to note that paul ryan has never been on this stage before. joe biden, given he's run for president twice, i
bring bill clinton as his debate coach." that's one person's opinion of the matter. nevertheless, no chance in that happening, but we know from what david axelrod has said and others, there will likely be a strategy change for the president in the next debate. >> no one knows why the president didn't do as well. i think that you're going to see a more focused president obama. actually, a more focused obama campaign team on preparation. this is a conversation we had about mitt romney...
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last night he had a 75-minute one on one with secretaries of state hillary clinton. today he's scheduled to talk with president obama and governor romney by phone. yesterday the prime minister made this impassioned plea before the u.n. general assembly to stop iran from acquiring a nuclear weapon. that's a chart he used to set his red line to where iran's nuclear program must absolutely be stopped. this country was built by working people. the economy needs manufacturing. machines, tools, people making stuff. companies have to invest in making things. infrastructure, construction, production. we need it now more than ever. chevron's putting more than $8 billion dollars back in the u.s. economy this year. in pipes, cement, steel, jobs, energy. we need to get the wheels turning. i'm proud of that. making real things... for real. ...that make a real difference. ♪ wthe future of our medicare andr electiosocial security. for... a real difference. man 1: i want facts. straight talk. tell me your plan... and what it means for me. woman 2: i'm tired of the negative ads and
last night he had a 75-minute one on one with secretaries of state hillary clinton. today he's scheduled to talk with president obama and governor romney by phone. yesterday the prime minister made this impassioned plea before the u.n. general assembly to stop iran from acquiring a nuclear weapon. that's a chart he used to set his red line to where iran's nuclear program must absolutely be stopped. this country was built by working people. the economy needs manufacturing. machines, tools,...
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clinton is the one incumbent, clinton clearly won that debate. the other incumbent in the modern era, 1976. we've had them every four years since. the incumbents generally lost the first debates. i'm skeptical about the idea incumbent see brings it back. i see other factors in all the races. reagan blanked he was. he was 73 years old and we might have subsequently learned what that was about, you think of clinton and george bush sr. he was a better commuter. bush 2004 against john kerry. kerry was a strong debater. i don't see incumbent see aas a factor in these. >> that's fair. there's a multitude of factors that go into success in debates. the challenger in the first debate seems to perform better. one is the person the word has known for three and a half years as the president, and the other is a person they're geg to know. now this makes them equal. that's enormous and the psychological effect is hard to understatement. >> when i was running for congress, as the challenger it was hard to get the incumbent to debate me at all. that's the case
clinton is the one incumbent, clinton clearly won that debate. the other incumbent in the modern era, 1976. we've had them every four years since. the incumbents generally lost the first debates. i'm skeptical about the idea incumbent see brings it back. i see other factors in all the races. reagan blanked he was. he was 73 years old and we might have subsequently learned what that was about, you think of clinton and george bush sr. he was a better commuter. bush 2004 against john kerry. kerry...
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bill clinton turned on a dime. we didn't believe in 1994 -- >> i think it was six months of turning. >> yeah. >> but clinton had a huge advantage over obama. clinton had lost the governorship after being the youngest governor in the country. >> he governed in arkansas for ten years. dealt with conservative democrats and a very small republican party. >> the decision to turn came from when he lost in '80 and it was clear to both bill and hillary if they stayed on the hard left they'd be a one-term president as carter had been. the ability to turn goes back to what dee dee just said. being a governor, he and i always could communicate. we had some very tough, brutal fights. but there was some, we both had this compartmentalization that allows us to say okay. that was a really tough press conference. now how do we work this out? >> right. i sense real negotiations require you to listen carefully to the other person. not agree with him but listen carefully. try to figure out is there something we can start building to
bill clinton turned on a dime. we didn't believe in 1994 -- >> i think it was six months of turning. >> yeah. >> but clinton had a huge advantage over obama. clinton had lost the governorship after being the youngest governor in the country. >> he governed in arkansas for ten years. dealt with conservative democrats and a very small republican party. >> the decision to turn came from when he lost in '80 and it was clear to both bill and hillary if they stayed on...
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and bill clinton in 1992 when perot took a slew of votes. until john mccain lost by nine points in 2008. michael bennet had the year's most expensive senate race. democrats now hold the governship. driven by a few things. an influx of highly educated west coast transplants. the state is younger and more diverse. more hispanic. the population is up by 20% since 2000 to more than 5 million. latinos now account for 21% of the population. president obama's strategy is repeating what he did in 2008. his margin of victory was 142,000 votes. 46,000 more votes than kerry got in 2004. they'll also vote on swing accounts that use to be republican. obama put on six counties that bush carried in 2004. including jefferson county. arapahoe. as jefferson county goes, so goes the nation. again, president bush won in 2004 by 9,000 votes. obama won there by more than 34,000 votes. but in 2010 again with a much tighter race. romney's strategy depends on winning the suburbs as well as driving up margins with social conservatives and active military and veterans
and bill clinton in 1992 when perot took a slew of votes. until john mccain lost by nine points in 2008. michael bennet had the year's most expensive senate race. democrats now hold the governship. driven by a few things. an influx of highly educated west coast transplants. the state is younger and more diverse. more hispanic. the population is up by 20% since 2000 to more than 5 million. latinos now account for 21% of the population. president obama's strategy is repeating what he did in 2008....
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clinton did his thing on his own. and the public saw his warmth and his ability to connect with people and they liked that. george bush blew that question you showed a part of. that was the good part of his answer, but when he first heard the question, he was like, i don't get it and people remember that he said i don't get it. and that was about the economy. and that's what people were feeling and hurting. >> when we talk about the fact you were the last female journalist to have access to a presidential debate like this and would you remind everybody that gwen eiffel moderated the '04 debate, an honor, but not a game changer, but you did write a piece -- we have candy crowley, who has the duties for one of these debates. you say don't forget, you will be treated differently because you are a woman. how is it different for women or minority moderators, when it comes to those tough questions on a woman's right to choose. is there an extra cautious line women need to take in asking that? >> she's not going to have the
clinton did his thing on his own. and the public saw his warmth and his ability to connect with people and they liked that. george bush blew that question you showed a part of. that was the good part of his answer, but when he first heard the question, he was like, i don't get it and people remember that he said i don't get it. and that was about the economy. and that's what people were feeling and hurting. >> when we talk about the fact you were the last female journalist to have access...
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it could be something as definite ace bill clinton's speech. that's romney's problem and it's a big one. >>> due to mature subject matter, viewer direction is advised. there are 2 million people behind bars in america. we open the gates, "lockup." >> we are working with serious, dangerous criminals. >> if you like being told what to do, if you like being told when to eat, sleep, go to the bathroom, if you like taking a
it could be something as definite ace bill clinton's speech. that's romney's problem and it's a big one. >>> due to mature subject matter, viewer direction is advised. there are 2 million people behind bars in america. we open the gates, "lockup." >> we are working with serious, dangerous criminals. >> if you like being told what to do, if you like being told when to eat, sleep, go to the bathroom, if you like taking a
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secretary clinton met one-on-one with mr. netanyahu for more than an hour on thursday. you have that. you have the phone call that the president shared with him yesterday. has the president and benjamin netanyahu patched over any perceived differences? >> it's a very interesting moment right now, where there's a perception that is being pushed in the political environment of differences between netanyahu and the obama administration. but when it comes to the facts, this administration has a very close relationship with the netanyahu government, the defense minister who barack has multiple times spoken about, how the support for israel's security is at the highest level it's ever been. so there's superficial arguments about it, but really no, no real split at all. >> we know that benjamin netanyahu has known mitt romney for a long time. the fact is he spoke with him yesterday as well regarding iran. and here's what mr. romney said regarding that call. >> i do not believe that in the final analysis we will have to use military action. i certainly hope we don't have to. i
secretary clinton met one-on-one with mr. netanyahu for more than an hour on thursday. you have that. you have the phone call that the president shared with him yesterday. has the president and benjamin netanyahu patched over any perceived differences? >> it's a very interesting moment right now, where there's a perception that is being pushed in the political environment of differences between netanyahu and the obama administration. but when it comes to the facts, this administration has...
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bill clinton a master of the form. what is the biggest lesson the president has learned from bill clinton's performance at the dnc? >> i think ultimately what president clinton did was crystallize the economic argument and economic choice before us, because we built the economy from the middle class out during the 1990s. you saw where that led us to a government surplus in 23 million jobs created. the republicans in the next decade, did all the same sorts of things that mitt romney would like to do today, passed a tax cut for the wealthiest that led to the lowest pace of job creation since world war ii, stripped back oversight from wall street a financial house of cards that collapsed in 2008. so president clinton made clear this isn't some sort of economic theory, we've tried these policies before and you saw where we ended up. let's pursue those that work. >> ben in terms of the strategy, we were talking about the fact that mitt romney has been trotting out i won't call it stakes, maybe dried pieces of chicken in ter
bill clinton a master of the form. what is the biggest lesson the president has learned from bill clinton's performance at the dnc? >> i think ultimately what president clinton did was crystallize the economic argument and economic choice before us, because we built the economy from the middle class out during the 1990s. you saw where that led us to a government surplus in 23 million jobs created. the republicans in the next decade, did all the same sorts of things that mitt romney would...
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and this is with clinton having been at the convention and ads run. when you ask voters, do you think romney will bring back bush's policies, 45% of voters say that. and this is whith bush not mentioned at all. >> it really is strange, you see the democrats, they trot out bill clinton at every opportunity, he is their party's superstar. and meanwhile, the gop, they hide g.w. in the back room like the crazy lost uncle. it's very odd. how long do you think that continues? >> well, you know, it took richard nixon a long time to come out of hiding. and i'm not sure that he ever came back and spoke at a convention. >> paul glastris, author of "elephant in the room," thank you so much for your time today. it sounds like a fascinating read. full disclosure here, i have only started it. they keep me pretty busy here, paul. hope to get around to the whole thing. >> hope you enjoy it. >> coming up, what beer you drink has to say about your politics. all of a sudden, the folks here on the floor have all perked up. >>> a little bit later, accusations politics in
and this is with clinton having been at the convention and ads run. when you ask voters, do you think romney will bring back bush's policies, 45% of voters say that. and this is whith bush not mentioned at all. >> it really is strange, you see the democrats, they trot out bill clinton at every opportunity, he is their party's superstar. and meanwhile, the gop, they hide g.w. in the back room like the crazy lost uncle. it's very odd. how long do you think that continues? >> well, you...
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and also americans like bill clinton. if you look at the fairvelt ratings, they're higher than the first lady's. >> kristen welker traveling with the president in nevada. that's a state we're going to dig deeper into in this hour. thanks again. we jump now to our monday morning power panel. we've got political analyst and columnist karen finney, alice, and perry bacon, msnbc contributor and political editor. thanks to all three of you being here. alice, i want to start with you. as we played off the top of the hour, governor chris christie repeating those comments. kind of raising the stakes for mitt romney three times specifically with david gregory on meet the press alone. do you think that he is doing mitt romney the nominee any favors predicting that he needs to seize that moment and pull momentum out of wednesday's debates to continue? >> well, certainly it's in his best interest to seize the moment. but the truth is we all know that president obama has a -- is a great orator and has a benefit of having participated
and also americans like bill clinton. if you look at the fairvelt ratings, they're higher than the first lady's. >> kristen welker traveling with the president in nevada. that's a state we're going to dig deeper into in this hour. thanks again. we jump now to our monday morning power panel. we've got political analyst and columnist karen finney, alice, and perry bacon, msnbc contributor and political editor. thanks to all three of you being here. alice, i want to start with you. as we...
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bill clinton did have a full congress that was republican but bill clinton was democrat. and you have fragmented government, george w. bush had a republican congress for four to eight years. george bush scarcely had the best domestic legislative accomplishment that could rival lyndon johnson or to be fair richard nixon. perhaps the 2012 elections will generate a unified government that will pass its preferred programs but it would be foolhardy, most observers at this time is the more or less maintenance of the status quo in which barack obama will continue to occupy the oval office as the republicans continue to patrol by reversed number of the house of representatives with the senate at this time being up for grabs. so we should be open for the possibility that the current election will fit the shakespearean description of sound and fury signifying nothing or very little with regard to domestic policy and that is what i am focusing on. perhaps not nothing. considered the conclusion of tom friedman's column on april 22nd of this past year in which he expressed great conce
bill clinton did have a full congress that was republican but bill clinton was democrat. and you have fragmented government, george w. bush had a republican congress for four to eight years. george bush scarcely had the best domestic legislative accomplishment that could rival lyndon johnson or to be fair richard nixon. perhaps the 2012 elections will generate a unified government that will pass its preferred programs but it would be foolhardy, most observers at this time is the more or less...
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bill clinton gave a great speech at the convention and everyone loved what clinton said. it now turns out there was some underlying economic trends that was feeding that that we didn't really know about, but that makes sense now. and i think if that's the case heading into the critical month of october and obviously in november where we're going to have one more jobs report, i think that really does benefit the president. because that's been the underlying issue of this entire campaign. it's been the issue that mitt romney's campaigned on from the get-go. >> at the convention i think he framed obama the case for obama and particularly the case for obama on the economy more clearly than anyone else has on the campaign. >> no president, no president, not me, not any of my predecessors, no one could have fully repaired all the damage that he found in just four years. when president barack obama took office, the economy was in free fall, it had just shrunk. we were losing 750,000 jobs a month. the are we doing better today? the answer is yes. >> and we should say, we are actu
bill clinton gave a great speech at the convention and everyone loved what clinton said. it now turns out there was some underlying economic trends that was feeding that that we didn't really know about, but that makes sense now. and i think if that's the case heading into the critical month of october and obviously in november where we're going to have one more jobs report, i think that really does benefit the president. because that's been the underlying issue of this entire campaign. it's...
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clinton's dnc speech, 3.95 million went to. romney's 47% video, the lead video, 47%, 3.4 million people went to it cht clint eastwood's speech with the empty chair, 3.2 million. michelle obama's dnc speech, 3.2 million. romney's rnc speech, 1.1 million. >> that's pretty unbelievable chart right there. when you're losing to clint eastwood's empty chair speech by 2.1 million people, that's unreal. >> when you do a video of you talking about 47% by 2.3 million. >> that's unreal. and i think you hit on something very key here, which is when people watch that 47% video, they've been trying to get a sense, who is this man really? he's been all over the board. he was the moderate governor of massachusetts. now he's spouting these tea party talking points. who is he really? and when they saw that video, they said, ah, this is who is he at his core and we don't like it. >> well, krystal ball and dana milbank, thank you for your time and have a good weekend. be sure to check out krystal right here on "the cycle" here at 3:00 p.m. eastern
clinton's dnc speech, 3.95 million went to. romney's 47% video, the lead video, 47%, 3.4 million people went to it cht clint eastwood's speech with the empty chair, 3.2 million. michelle obama's dnc speech, 3.2 million. romney's rnc speech, 1.1 million. >> that's pretty unbelievable chart right there. when you're losing to clint eastwood's empty chair speech by 2.1 million people, that's unreal. >> when you do a video of you talking about 47% by 2.3 million. >> that's unreal....
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the question now as darrell issa and know jason chav fits right letters to hillary clinton demanding answers to what happened in benghazi, questions about whether people there asked for more security, whether there was an intelligence failure, there's talk of plans for retaliation, if the targeting can be found, what is the response to the republican criticism and criticism from some democrats that this was not handled well? >> well, i'll leave some of the details to my white house friends because it's better for them to answer some of these substantive questions but say a couple of things. one, since the moment of that attack we've been focused on two things, embassy security all over the world and getting to the bottom of that attack and bringing to justice the people who perpetrated it. that's what our focus has been on. as new information has come to light, the white house and the administration has shared it. to congress, to the american people. i think this criticism from the romney campaign, mitt romney himself, is really obviously he's politicizing it for his own benefit but
the question now as darrell issa and know jason chav fits right letters to hillary clinton demanding answers to what happened in benghazi, questions about whether people there asked for more security, whether there was an intelligence failure, there's talk of plans for retaliation, if the targeting can be found, what is the response to the republican criticism and criticism from some democrats that this was not handled well? >> well, i'll leave some of the details to my white house...
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against hillary clinton he wasn't a great debater. i have to look at tapes of obama as a debater in congressional races and state senate, he wasn't great. he's a speech maker. as a debater, he's never been good at all. laz night he outdid himself. he had so many allies to go down. whether about women. whether about 47%. whether it was about the fuz fuzziness of romney's policy suggestions on taxes. romney's suggestion the auto business bankrupt. he did not show up. he has to next time. the that you're going to see by tuesday is going to be significant in a lot of states. >> and also the swing in attitude. you look at the wall street journal editorial page. the best republican performance since 1980. bill crystal was saying the same thing last night. i was saying the same thing. i said, this is the best i've seen a republican do since 1980. >> in a generation. i've been very critical. bill crystal has been critical. conservatives have been critical. why can't mitt romney connect the dots? last night he did. how important is that -- for
against hillary clinton he wasn't a great debater. i have to look at tapes of obama as a debater in congressional races and state senate, he wasn't great. he's a speech maker. as a debater, he's never been good at all. laz night he outdid himself. he had so many allies to go down. whether about women. whether about 47%. whether it was about the fuz fuzziness of romney's policy suggestions on taxes. romney's suggestion the auto business bankrupt. he did not show up. he has to next time. the that...
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i was called a racist, bill clinton was called a racist. i have seen bill talk to you and others saying donald trump is a good guy. we have a good relationship and he is a good guy. i believe the hate tried he had and maybe doesn't have any more for obama was unbelievable but people are afraid to to take obama on. i don't know what it is. >> this is amazing four years later he saved the democratic convention for obama. he said in 2008 they played the race card with me and they planned it from the beginning. >> he felt that very strongly. >> you feel he did that fto you? >> he did. you mention certain things it's racist. any time you criticize obama whether it's trump or anybody else you get the ratest thing going. it's very unfair, not nice. i enjoyed, i must tell you. i love thinking about running. as you know i was doing incredibly well. people liked what i said whether it was about china or opec ripping us off or whether it was about obama. i wish he were a great president. i am a republican. if he were the greatest president i would be
i was called a racist, bill clinton was called a racist. i have seen bill talk to you and others saying donald trump is a good guy. we have a good relationship and he is a good guy. i believe the hate tried he had and maybe doesn't have any more for obama was unbelievable but people are afraid to to take obama on. i don't know what it is. >> this is amazing four years later he saved the democratic convention for obama. he said in 2008 they played the race card with me and they planned it...
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as bill clinton said you all they are suggesting now when he is asked about this, and he's a the best, he made the comment, he said, what they are proposing is bush economic policies on steroids. >> if you look at what the vice president said and what he has been saying on the campaign trail, is that the middle class has been buried by the exact same policies that mitt romney and paul ryan want to go back to. >> so, kevin madden didn't want too touch that 2007 obama video but the campaign certainly wanted to touch on vice president joe biden's comments. they have got a t-shirt up now, says honest joe, applauding his comments regarding the middle class being buried. what do you make of this back and forth, ab? will it matter tonight? >> i think it might come up and the president will find a wake as he has in the past, that's joe bind, he didn't mean that and what he meant was because of the financial collapse of september of 2008 and even the beginnings of the recession we saw once before that the middle class has been buried and hasn't been able to come out from under what is the sequ
as bill clinton said you all they are suggesting now when he is asked about this, and he's a the best, he made the comment, he said, what they are proposing is bush economic policies on steroids. >> if you look at what the vice president said and what he has been saying on the campaign trail, is that the middle class has been buried by the exact same policies that mitt romney and paul ryan want to go back to. >> so, kevin madden didn't want too touch that 2007 obama video but the...
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. >> bill clinton was on the other side of that equation while debating another 73 year old. this one was former senator bob dole. clinton handled the issue this way. >> i don't think senator bill is too old to be president. it's the age of his ideas that i question. >> so we'll have to wait and see if there is a memorable moment tonight that can shape the final month of the race. sometimes it is a one liner. sometimes it is a facial expression. >>> white house soup of the day. that is good soup. i wish i were eating it today. coconut shrimp. you are watching "the daily rundown" on msnbc. [ female announcer ] ready for a taste of what's hot? check out the latest collection of snacks from lean cuisine. creamy spinach artichoke dip, crispy garlic chicken spring rolls. they're this season's must-have accessory. lean cuisine. be culinary chic. with a vial and syringe. me, explaining what i was doing at breakfast. and me discovering novolog mix 70/30 flexpen. flexpen is pre-filled with your pre-mix insulin. dial the exact dose. inject by pushing a button. no vials, syringes or coo
. >> bill clinton was on the other side of that equation while debating another 73 year old. this one was former senator bob dole. clinton handled the issue this way. >> i don't think senator bill is too old to be president. it's the age of his ideas that i question. >> so we'll have to wait and see if there is a memorable moment tonight that can shape the final month of the race. sometimes it is a one liner. sometimes it is a facial expression. >>> white house soup...
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and bill clinton tried the approach i'm talking about. we created 23 million new jobs. we went from deficit to surplus. and businesses did very well. >> you know what i hear and i hear it in the president's speeches, he's still working the interest groups rather than selling a national plan. he keeps talking about more teachers. he doesn't necessarily push education he pushes more teachers and he'll refurbish the school buildings. grant it the aft like it maybe your people like it but it isn't a national plan for economic development and tonight they said what's your difference and that's all he could come up with is something about the teachers. where's the national macroeconomic plan to get us out of these doldrums. >> i think he talks about education in a much different way as well. and not just talk about. he's done it. he talked about the "race to the top" tonight. as a fompbler urban school superintendent that's done more to reform schools across the country than anything else the federal government has ever done but there needs to be more than that as well. he's
and bill clinton tried the approach i'm talking about. we created 23 million new jobs. we went from deficit to surplus. and businesses did very well. >> you know what i hear and i hear it in the president's speeches, he's still working the interest groups rather than selling a national plan. he keeps talking about more teachers. he doesn't necessarily push education he pushes more teachers and he'll refurbish the school buildings. grant it the aft like it maybe your people like it but it...
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then clinton and bob dole. >> howard dean said that president obama should not make the same mistake al gore did in 2000 against george w. bush. >> that's not the way america's meant to be. >> and there, there's nixon with the flop sweat. george h.w. bush looking at his watch. appearances count, don't they? >> they really do. and a professional knows that. george h.w. bush in that debate, that third one in richmond in 1992, he was looking at his watch because he was trying to make the point that one of the other candidates had run over time. it didn't really compute this was sending the message that he was impatient, just the kind of message he didn't want to send. >> humor can be an effective tool, diffuse a weakness. >> i will not make age an issue of this campaign. i am not going to exploit for political purposes my opponent's youth and inexperience. >> and at that moment, a lot of people said well, there's the ball game. including his opponent. >> including walter mondale. >> what do you think about humor as a tool in this debate tonight? >> you'd better be a very accomplished ac
then clinton and bob dole. >> howard dean said that president obama should not make the same mistake al gore did in 2000 against george w. bush. >> that's not the way america's meant to be. >> and there, there's nixon with the flop sweat. george h.w. bush looking at his watch. appearances count, don't they? >> they really do. and a professional knows that. george h.w. bush in that debate, that third one in richmond in 1992, he was looking at his watch because he was...
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time we have been able to point to where reloses his cool in a way is inadvertent, did it to hillary clinton, well you're likable enough, hillary. you have to be ready for that if you are caught glancing the wrong way, let alone saying the way al gore s. >> don't look at your watch. >> remember that. it could hurt you. it could hurt you. but he has got a much easier job, i think. the president has to defend his record in a positive way and those keep his cool. >> howard fineman, stopping by the kids' table here in denver. thanks for being part of the day. >> if you hear me singing at the end, ♪ turn out the lights, the party's over ♪ >> we will see you soon. finish that song. >>> up next, both sides dusting off old tapes hours before the first big debate, nothing coordinated about that, right? we will dig into the ridiculousness as "the cycle" "rolls on from denver on wednesday, october 3, 2012. [ male announcer ] wouldn't it be cool if we took the nissan altima and reimagined nearly everything in it? gave it greater horsepower and best in class 38 mpg highway... advanced headlights... a
time we have been able to point to where reloses his cool in a way is inadvertent, did it to hillary clinton, well you're likable enough, hillary. you have to be ready for that if you are caught glancing the wrong way, let alone saying the way al gore s. >> don't look at your watch. >> remember that. it could hurt you. it could hurt you. but he has got a much easier job, i think. the president has to defend his record in a positive way and those keep his cool. >> howard...